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[Anonymous]

I am sick and tired of the rest of the world critisising English football and english sport in general. It all comes down to petty jealousy that these people exhibit toward the mother country. The country that invented the beatiful game and the country who now house some of the greatest players playing the game today. Granted we have also acted as the home to many of these foreign mercenaries such as Ravinelli, Repka, Boogers, Silenzi who only came over here to cash in rather than leave anything for us to respect and admire in the way they played the game or acted while they were here.

The topic posted on this site by the bitter Italian is a case is point - it was a totally unprovoked attack on us. Why do these people see the need to attack England it such a way. Why can't he stick to eating pasta and riding piaggios.

The fact is Italian football is a joke. Half the clubs are bankrupt and they play in half empty stadiums. The supporters are partially educated, racist baffoons who have nothing better to do on a Sunday afternoon than spend watching a bunch of over payed, over hyped prima donnas prancing around a pitch with little inclanation to entertain the paying public. Yes ENTERTAIN. Sport is now entertainment - it has been for a number of years. Sport is competing against TV/Video Games/Theatre etc..etc for our leisure time. It is in a free market. All I can say is thank god we have not relied on the Italians to spread the beautiful game throughout the world as we would have have ended up having a world cup of 2 countries watched by 1 TV set in Madagascar such would have been the popularity of the sport.

As for skill - Rooney/Giggs/Moore/Merson/Charlton/Best...these are hardly the names of poor players are they.

Yes Italy may be technically superior, you may wish to mock us but you opinions are wasted on this board. You spout off stereo typed drivel cut and pasted out of some xenophobic Itailan football journal.

Worry about your own insignificant league rather than carrying on with this non-sensical rubbish.....

[NILO78]

I do not agree with ANYTHING that you have written.

There is nothing in the premiership that the Serie A would want to be jealous about.

About being Mercenaries, Beckham did not become El Becko just for the hell of it he also got a lot of Dosh for his troubles.
All footballers are mercenaries, the great the player the greater the mercenary. Ronaldo, Zidane, Ronaldinho, Saha, Vieri, Cannavaro, Nesta all have been in 3-4 clubs at least.

Entertainment is not footie is about. Its about WINNING.
Thats why players dive and why they pressure the ref and why they move to Real Madrid if they can. BECAUSE they WANT TO WIN.

You don`t want to win ? Stay at Arsenal.

Skill :
Come on!! Cristiano Ronaldo a portoguese kid comes over here doing some poncy step overs that ANY kid in the Rio de Janeiro can do and suddenly he is considered a Demi god! the lack of Real Skill is obvious and undeniable.

Pasta and Piaggios:
Doing very well there actually. Pasta is good and Piaggios are convenient.

Serie A, insignificant ?!?!?
Serie A Rules European Football !!!
may I remind you the last 4 teams in last years CL ?!?!?
JUVE - INTER - MILAN - REAL
These are the teams that dominate the EU scene.

[Anonymous]

Oh here we go again. Mr Serie A.

Your arguements are so weak they are hardly worth me answering them. As I am bored I will.

You name me one mercenary english footballer? Beckham? I doubt it - he would have earned as much if not more in England. He went to forward his career as even I admit the Premier Liga is the best league in the world.

You say football is about winning - wrong. Please read above Numpty. It is a form of entertainment as well. I agree with you that winning is an important element of football but partly the reason that Italian football is not watched as widely as La Liga or the Premiership is because watching paint dry has more appeal. Yes I re-iterate winning is important but the entertainment aspect should also be considered in the modern marketplace. Just look at the latest Nike advert - who did they have - Brazil and Portugal. Who have the best known footballer in the world - France. All the Italians are known for is boring defensive tactics. Go worldwide outside of Europe to Africa and Asia where we need to grow the games. They will be wearing Beckham/Carlos/Zindane tops not Maldini/Matterazzi and Chivu. That is the way the world is.

The Italian League is undoutably a good league but as a spectacle it is a non event. It is boring.

Oh I notice you do not mention this years champions league at all.

[Anonymous]

I dont know what his intentions are to have a go or what.
But he speaks sense there is no hunger in the english game from english players they seem quite content to sit back on the box and to kick the ball over the half way line. If you actualy listen to the points and facts stated you might learn something. English footie to say the least is not the best though it should be who is talkin rubbish.
I do beleive Italy have won the world cup more times then us, and have done well in european championships. If not better then english sides and won the champions league last year.
Its true England should be the best, huge investment in teams players countless leagues mini leagues tournaments, a chance for every kid to play for a team whether from school or else where, where is all this talent gone smacked up the feild without a second thought?
Also ask the Spanish what they think of Beckham"****e oh light"they laugh at him, they say he runs round like a headless chicken. Its also been reported that the players of Real do not think much of him at all, which says something interesting about how we choose to look at the game, to win it or watch it! Ask a man on the street what about Beckham"oh hes amazing", he is a talent but not world class or how the media shows him to be. Think about it

[Goggy]

I think I'll keep out of this one. I don't want to join in country bashing, too much of that goes on already. I do know there are people who like to have a go at us English for whatever reason, fine, that's up to them if they have a sad life and can find nothing better to do with their time.

Life is too short to hold a grudge against any country, for what ever reason. Get a life and see how nice it can be.

[Numpty Boy]

Goggy - I do take exception to you saying I should get a life. There is nothing wrong with a bit of heated debate. If it draws upon my natural dislike for the Europeans the that is my issue not yours,as long as you take it all with a pinch of salt like I do there is no problem with country bashing.

Yes we all would like to be whiter than white as you seem to be but I am not perfect.

This is what makes sporting debate and I enjoy it so leave me to it. You are not perfect yourself...I am sure you have some prejudices yourself.

[Goggy]

Numpty Boy, I was not having a go at you, in fact you make some very valid points. I was having a go at previous posts on the forum where posters just say one team/country or other is crap without adding any reasons, just simply they hate one team/country. If you read what I said, it was aimed at the anti English posts which there have been quite a few. I maybe should have made my comment somewhere else, no insult to you was intended. :oops:

[Numpty Boy]

I apologise Goggy. Maybe I take the anti english bashing a bit too hard and should be a bit more like you in your reactions. I did not take it the right way sorry :lol: :oops:

Any way I have read you posts and they are well informed so keep it up - I am going to start one on the Premiership soon.

[cloughie55]

Lets get some basic facts in the last 5 years on the international arena where has Italy been? We've been to 2 quarter finals- what sort of Los-agne have you lot been eating.

Italian football is all based around a very tight defense, so how the hell did you let 3 past in 10 minutes. Hey they're a better team this time around beware they might score 3 in 5 mins this time.

Liverpool did series A a big promotional favour they made an excellent final. The complete opposite of the milan teams final a few years earlier it was an absolute bore for the neautral something English teams never deliver on the big arena. Italian football is very boring and predictable. As for big name players we have some fat cats backing our clubs and there is more world class foreign players in the premiership than in Series A and the gap is increasing. Our big clubs operate on financial budgets that are determined on winnings unlike a few of your clubs. Now with Chelsea a few more your falling behind in that department too. You are geting second choice players.

[Gooner_4_Life]

This italian dude is funny. Personally, I feel winning is very important but the entertainment value is more important. You're right, if you want to win don't support Arsenal, but I love Arsenal, I love the way they play and I have supported them all my life. I would rather chew off my own testicles than be a spine-less fair weather supporter, changing allegiance every other year. One thing is for sure though mussolini, Arsenal, on form, play the most beautiful football in the world. I'd rather watch Arsenal play that way and lose than watch boring italian football to be honest. I do suppose that the taste in football reflects the person. lol :bounce:

[pupdog]

I am sick and tired of the rest of the world critisising English football and english sport in general. It all comes down to petty jealousy that these people exhibit toward the mother country. The country that invented the beatiful game and the country who now house some of the greatest players playing the game today. Granted we have also acted as the home to many of these foreign mercenaries such as Ravinelli, Repka, Boogers, Silenzi who only came over here to cash in rather than leave anything for us to respect and admire in the way they played the game or acted while they were here.

The topic posted on this site by the bitter Italian is a case is point - it was a totally unprovoked attack on us. Why do these people see the need to attack England it such a way. Why can't he stick to eating pasta and riding piaggios.

The fact is Italian football is a joke. Half the clubs are bankrupt and they play in half empty stadiums. The supporters are partially educated, racist baffoons who have nothing better to do on a Sunday afternoon than spend watching a bunch of over payed, over hyped prima donnas prancing around a pitch with little inclanation to entertain the paying public. Yes ENTERTAIN. Sport is now entertainment - it has been for a number of years. Sport is competing against TV/Video Games/Theatre etc..etc for our leisure time. It is in a free market. All I can say is thank god we have not relied on the Italians to spread the beautiful game throughout the world as we would have have ended up having a world cup of 2 countries watched by 1 TV set in Madagascar such would have been the popularity of the sport.

As for skill - Rooney/Giggs/Moore/Merson/Charlton/Best...these are hardly the names of poor players are they.

Yes Italy may be technically superior, you may wish to mock us but you opinions are wasted on this board. You spout off stereo typed drivel cut and pasted out of some xenophobic Itailan football journal.

Worry about your own insignificant league rather than carrying on with this non-sensical rubbish.....


Well im half Italian and half English and find you post totally un-intelligent, wrong, racist and it seems you are threatened by Italian football, or why the attack. To claim some moral victory over this Italian guy by posting this is laughable.

Where to start; how about the title of this thread - England is the best. Should that not read; England are the best? Plus England are not the best, far from it, Brazil are, any moron can see that.

2nd - Sport is not Entertainment; Sport is a BUSINESS, if you don't realise that in this modern age, then you cannot know anything about football for the last 15 years or so.

Why is England the Mother country - please explain! Thanks

Why are Italians Jealous of English football, please compare the amount of World Cups win from Italy and Champions League, European Cups won by Italian sides.

Why is Italian football a joke? Half the teams are not bankrupt at all. There was the big; famous Lazio story, but why is that any different to what happened to Leeds United. The club spent big to bring in big names and couldn’t sustain it and got into financial trouble. Please name me another Italian club that is 'bankrupt' and provide evidence.
Why are Italian players 'prima-Donna' and players in England are not? I really look forward to your answer to this.

I support Juventus, according to you that means I am racist and partially educated. Well im not racist and I speak 3 languages, nearly four, have a Degree with honours from Leeds University and have completed a PHD in Hong Kong. How educated are you?

English clubs have bought some crap from Italy, but you can't say Ince was a success at Inter? Platt wasn't the player you guys though he was, their have been very little success in English players coming to Italian Football. As for the players you mentioned, well if the clubs in question were stupid enough to buy them, that’s down to their scouts and their short-comings.

What is a free market??? Never heard of that term, please explain.

The Italian league is insignificant??? Does that make the champion’s league insignificant too? AC Milan were in the last final, 2003 was an all Italian final Juve vs AC, Juve were in the 98 and 97 Final and Juve won it in 96 !
So yes, Italian league is very Irrelevant.


Your spelling is terrible and I think you have shown everyone how intelligent you are, how racist you are, how immature you are and that you really should pay attention at School, you might learn something.

[pupdog]

Oh here we go again. Mr Serie A.

Your arguements are so weak they are hardly worth me answering them. As I am bored I will.

You name me one mercenary english footballer? Beckham? I doubt it - he would have earned as much if not more in England. He went to forward his career as even I admit the Premier Liga is the best league in the world.

You say football is about winning - wrong. Please read above Numpty. It is a form of entertainment as well. I agree with you that winning is an important element of football but partly the reason that Italian football is not watched as widely as La Liga or the Premiership is because watching paint dry has more appeal. Yes I re-iterate winning is important but the entertainment aspect should also be considered in the modern marketplace. Just look at the latest Nike advert - who did they have - Brazil and Portugal. Who have the best known footballer in the world - France. All the Italians are known for is boring defensive tactics. Go worldwide outside of Europe to Africa and Asia where we need to grow the games. They will be wearing Beckham/Carlos/Zindane tops not Maldini/Matterazzi and Chivu. That is the way the world is.

The Italian League is undoutably a good league but as a spectacle it is a non event. It is boring.

Oh I notice you do not mention this years champions league at all.

Football is about winning you total prat.

If a manager gets his team to entertain and loses every game 10-9, you reckon he will keep his job ?

God you know nothing about this game do you ?

[pupdog]

Numpty Boy, I was not having a go at you, in fact you make some very valid points. I was having a go at previous posts on the forum where posters just say one team/country or other is crap without adding any reasons, just simply they hate one team/country. If you read what I said, it was aimed at the anti English posts which there have been quite a few. I maybe should have made my comment somewhere else, no insult to you was intended. :oops:


Well said !

[pupdog]

Oh here we go again. Mr Serie A.

Your arguements are so weak they are hardly worth me answering them. As I am bored I will.

You name me one mercenary english footballer? Beckham? I doubt it - he would have earned as much if not more in England. He went to forward his career as even I admit the Premier Liga is the best league in the world.

You say football is about winning - wrong. Please read above Numpty. It is a form of entertainment as well. I agree with you that winning is an important element of football but partly the reason that Italian football is not watched as widely as La Liga or the Premiership is because watching paint dry has more appeal. Yes I re-iterate winning is important but the entertainment aspect should also be considered in the modern marketplace. Just look at the latest Nike advert - who did they have - Brazil and Portugal. Who have the best known footballer in the world - France. All the Italians are known for is boring defensive tactics. Go worldwide outside of Europe to Africa and Asia where we need to grow the games. They will be wearing Beckham/Carlos/Zindane tops not Maldini/Matterazzi and Chivu. That is the way the world is.

The Italian League is undoutably a good league but as a spectacle it is a non event. It is boring.

Oh I notice you do not mention this years champions league at all.

More evidence you are totall and utterly stupid and have no idea about football.

You compare Beckham/Carlos and Zidane to Maldini Matterazzi and Chivu

How about a more accurate comparision eh dumbo ,

How about Beckham, Carlos and Zidane to Totti, Kaka and Maldini !

Not forgetting the other boring rubbish players in the Italian league ; Shevchenko, Adriano, Recoba, Pizarro, Ibrahimovic, Trezeguet, Nedved, Cafu, Seedorf, Gattuso, Cassano, Pirlo, Camoranesi etc

I stand corrected, its soooo boring watching these guys play, YAWN

Ha Ha, you NUMPTY

[marklamar]

Lets get some basic facts in the last 5 years on the international arena where has Italy been? We've been to 2 quarter finals- what sort of Los-agne have you lot been eating.

Italian football is all based around a very tight defense, so how the hell did you let 3 past in 10 minutes. Hey they're a better team this time around beware they might score 3 in 5 mins this time.

Liverpool did series A a big promotional favour they made an excellent final. The complete opposite of the milan teams final a few years earlier it was an absolute bore for the neautral something English teams never deliver on the big arena. Italian football is very boring and predictable. As for big name players we have some fat cats backing our clubs and there is more world class foreign players in the premiership than in Series A and the gap is increasing. Our big clubs operate on financial budgets that are determined on winnings unlike a few of your clubs. Now with Chelsea a few more your falling behind in that department too. You are geting second choice players.


respect goes out to the above for a well worded argument against you no who

[marklamar]

were all racists on here, why because pupdog says so thats why:peace:

[pupdog]

were all racists on here, why because pupdog says so thats why:peace:

1) Do you have any idea how boring you are ?

2) Dragging up old arguments is going to be good for this site how ?

3) Stop trying to claim some sort of victory from other peoples posts. You have done quite a few times on here, if your too dumb to have your own opinion and be able to express it, then you know where to go.

When are you Easter Hols over or are you bunking off to go sniff glue and drink cider on street corners with all the other born losers.

[Gooner_4_Life]

I see there still has been no improvement with the quality of posting here. Let's just take it for granted that everyone on here is a tw@t and leave it there. Then we can post about football again. :hippie:

[Burslem_Boy]

Personally i tend to agree with Anonymous.

I believe the style of play in england is not as bad as people make out when they compare it to Spain or Italy our League has always stood out to them and in truth people; they fear us more than we fear them, They want to beat us more than we want to beat them, Thats the way it is too england because its our game and we are the oringal national side!

In the past the english and scotish leauges where regraded as the best leauges in the world, all due to the 5 year ban and the lack of quality we had in the ealry 1990s cousred the downgrade, Even though we could still boast names such as Paul Gascoigne and Gary McAllister two quality players who could of played for any team in the world. I believe many people behold the belief that english football is crap and not that technically superior to the others, Well when i hear somebody who ive known say that; they are either irish or they are not fully english and have a dislike for england over all. Thats just from my expersince.